Comments on: PETA loves meat http://www.offalgood.com/blog/peta-loves-meat Chef Chris Cosentino's guide to all good guts. Tue, 03 Sep 2013 14:28:44 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2 By: Bookmarks for August 11th | Blog of the FML http://www.offalgood.com/blog/peta-loves-meat/comment-page-1#comment-911 Bookmarks for August 11th | Blog of the FML Thu, 28 Aug 2008 10:48:16 +0000 http://www.offalgood.com/blog/peta-loves-meat/#comment-911 [...] Offal Good » PETA loves meat | Chef Chris Cosentino’s guide to all good guts. - Sharing of the petri goodness that PETA would love to send off as our meaty tray. Includes links to the NPR Science Friday special that covers this near pill food love Other Stuff You Might LikeFox Attacks (I hope these guys aren’t Nielsen Families)Endorsement Who?Politics Round Up for the WeekObama/Edwards ‘08For those of you that want to watch the UCF vs NC State game… [...] [...] Offal Good » PETA loves meat | Chef Chris Cosentino’s guide to all good guts. – Sharing of the petri goodness that PETA would love to send off as our meaty tray. Includes links to the NPR Science Friday special that covers this near pill food love Other Stuff You Might LikeFox Attacks (I hope these guys aren’t Nielsen Families)Endorsement Who?Politics Round Up for the WeekObama/Edwards ‘08For those of you that want to watch the UCF vs NC State game… [...]

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By: links for 2008-08-11 [delicious.com] | Blog of the FML http://www.offalgood.com/blog/peta-loves-meat/comment-page-1#comment-910 links for 2008-08-11 [delicious.com] | Blog of the FML Tue, 12 Aug 2008 04:00:39 +0000 http://www.offalgood.com/blog/peta-loves-meat/#comment-910 [...] Offal Good » PETA loves meat | Chef Chris Cosentino’s guide to all good guts. Sharing of the petri goodness that PETA would love to send off as our meaty tray. Includes links to the NPR Science Friday special that covers this near pill food love (tags: meat peta petri dish) [...] [...] Offal Good » PETA loves meat | Chef Chris Cosentino’s guide to all good guts. Sharing of the petri goodness that PETA would love to send off as our meaty tray. Includes links to the NPR Science Friday special that covers this near pill food love (tags: meat peta petri dish) [...]

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By: Alvin http://www.offalgood.com/blog/peta-loves-meat/comment-page-1#comment-909 Alvin Wed, 14 May 2008 21:51:19 +0000 http://www.offalgood.com/blog/peta-loves-meat/#comment-909 "I almost feel like we are stepping into a star trek scenario, and the next thing we know, we will only need to push a button and our whole meal will magically appear on a plate produced by scientists in a lab. Personally I would like my food to come from the farm, whether it be animal or vegetable." As opposed to throwing a piece of meat into the cart - a slice of an animal that was slaughtered at four years old and lived sitting in its own shit, being force-fed grains that it would never eat if it had a choice? Chopping up vegetables picked by slaves from the other side of the world? Are you aware of how much involvement "scientists" have on industrial food today? Colin says Nature is Good, but at this point, Nature has nothing to do with it. Call it a farm, call it a factory. I realize not every individual American household lives like this, and I apologize if you or anybody reading hopes to eat consciously, but you're pointing the finger at people that are trying to change the way food is produced. “I almost feel like we are stepping into a star trek scenario, and the next thing we know, we will only need to push a button and our whole meal will magically appear on a plate produced by scientists in a lab. Personally I would like my food to come from the farm, whether it be animal or vegetable.”

As opposed to throwing a piece of meat into the cart – a slice of an animal that was slaughtered at four years old and lived sitting in its own shit, being force-fed grains that it would never eat if it had a choice? Chopping up vegetables picked by slaves from the other side of the world? Are you aware of how much involvement “scientists” have on industrial food today? Colin says Nature is Good, but at this point, Nature has nothing to do with it. Call it a farm, call it a factory.

I realize not every individual American household lives like this, and I apologize if you or anybody reading hopes to eat consciously, but you’re pointing the finger at people that are trying to change the way food is produced.

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By: Colin http://www.offalgood.com/blog/peta-loves-meat/comment-page-1#comment-907 Colin Sun, 27 Apr 2008 18:28:49 +0000 http://www.offalgood.com/blog/peta-loves-meat/#comment-907 I believe what Chris is talking about is an old world style of meat consumption. Locally raised and humanely killed solely for sustenance. No waste and using the entire animal as a homage to animal sacrificing itself for or sustained life. Too raise a genetically non-animal for consumption is a step further from the massive slaughter houses we have now. At what point is living tissue no longer an animal which can feel? Can you tell the difference? This thought process by PETA is pretty absurd and verges on Soylent Green. Nature is good. PS Rainforests are being cut down for soy beans not only for animal feed but E85 ethanol. I believe what Chris is talking about is an old world style of meat consumption. Locally raised and humanely killed solely for sustenance. No waste and using the entire animal as a homage to animal sacrificing itself for or sustained life. Too raise a genetically non-animal for consumption is a step further from the massive slaughter houses we have now. At what point is living tissue no longer an animal which can feel? Can you tell the difference? This thought process by PETA is pretty absurd and verges on Soylent Green. Nature is good.
PS Rainforests are being cut down for soy beans not only for animal feed but E85 ethanol.

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By: Sean http://www.offalgood.com/blog/peta-loves-meat/comment-page-1#comment-905 Sean Sat, 26 Apr 2008 18:38:59 +0000 http://www.offalgood.com/blog/peta-loves-meat/#comment-905 I don't think it is hard to imagine that people who give up animal products on ethical grounds may still desire those flavors and textures which are unique to animal products. I've been vegan for three years now and I am still attracted to the scent of rendering bacon or roasting lamb despite my ethical convictions that consuming animal products is unjustifiable. PETA's prize may well be a publicity stunt but it also points towards what I believe is the only way to provide animal protein to the growing numbers of people the in the developing world who are beginning to demand it. PETA and the other major animal rights organizations have been trying for decades to get people to abstain from meat. A quick glance at the proportion of vegetarians/vegans in the United States over the same time period will tell you that that campaign has failed and I see no reason that it will succeed in the future. In vitro meat is the only viable alternative because at least in principle it does not require that the consumer sacrifice anything while it removes the living, breathing animal entirely from the equation. Your vision of small scale, "humane" animal husbandry, while a great step forward from factory farming, will not suffice to meet the demands of even current demand levels for meat let alone a future where 9 billion people are living at levels of affluence close to what we now enjoy in the West. "It is a sad day when we would rather cut down whole rain forests to produce soy beans, and waste precious dollars on fake meat production." Perhaps I am mistaking your implication here, but the rain forests are being cut down for soybeans which are then used for animal feed, not to make tofu, nor any other "fake meat" vegetarian product. If we were to adopt in vitro meat on an industrial scale however, there would be no pressure to clear cut/burn the amazon for animal pastures or land to raise soybeans to then feed those animals in feedlots. I don't see this ending in a world where we push buttons for our own meals in a pill. Instead, these technologies are allowing for more and more efficient use of our limited resources. Factory farming is a perfect example of this drive towards efficiency. For all the horrors it invites on the animals within it, it is an incredibly efficient model of animal husbandry, and indeed the only one that could feed our insatiable appetite for meat in this country. While I'd like to believe we could instigate a sea change in the mindset of the general public against the wanton cruelty involved in factory farming, history does not give much reason for hope. Instead, market forces will likely see the adoption of synthetic meat in certain products (ground beef, processed chicken) whether consumers are ready or not. Will it be a better world in 2020 when Chicken McNuggets never required the tortured 90 day existence of a broiler chicken? I'd like to think so. I don’t think it is hard to imagine that people who give up animal products on ethical grounds may still desire those flavors and textures which are unique to animal products. I’ve been vegan for three years now and I am still attracted to the scent of rendering bacon or roasting lamb despite my ethical convictions that consuming animal products is unjustifiable.

PETA’s prize may well be a publicity stunt but it also points towards what I believe is the only way to provide animal protein to the growing numbers of people the in the developing world who are beginning to demand it. PETA and the other major animal rights organizations have been trying for decades to get people to abstain from meat. A quick glance at the proportion of vegetarians/vegans in the United States over the same time period will tell you that that campaign has failed and I see no reason that it will succeed in the future. In vitro meat is the only viable alternative because at least in principle it does not require that the consumer sacrifice anything while it removes the living, breathing animal entirely from the equation. Your vision of small scale, “humane” animal husbandry, while a great step forward from factory farming, will not suffice to meet the demands of even current demand levels for meat let alone a future where 9 billion people are living at levels of affluence close to what we now enjoy in the West.

“It is a sad day when we would rather cut down whole rain forests to produce soy beans, and waste precious dollars on fake meat production.”
Perhaps I am mistaking your implication here, but the rain forests are being cut down for soybeans which are then used for animal feed, not to make tofu, nor any other “fake meat” vegetarian product. If we were to adopt in vitro meat on an industrial scale however, there would be no pressure to clear cut/burn the amazon for animal pastures or land to raise soybeans to then feed those animals in feedlots.

I don’t see this ending in a world where we push buttons for our own meals in a pill. Instead, these technologies are allowing for more and more efficient use of our limited resources. Factory farming is a perfect example of this drive towards efficiency. For all the horrors it invites on the animals within it, it is an incredibly efficient model of animal husbandry, and indeed the only one that could feed our insatiable appetite for meat in this country.

While I’d like to believe we could instigate a sea change in the mindset of the general public against the wanton cruelty involved in factory farming, history does not give much reason for hope. Instead, market forces will likely see the adoption of synthetic meat in certain products (ground beef, processed chicken) whether consumers are ready or not. Will it be a better world in 2020 when Chicken McNuggets never required the tortured 90 day existence of a broiler chicken? I’d like to think so.

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By: Egaeus http://www.offalgood.com/blog/peta-loves-meat/comment-page-1#comment-906 Egaeus Sat, 26 Apr 2008 06:03:59 +0000 http://www.offalgood.com/blog/peta-loves-meat/#comment-906 In defense of Star Trek, the food replicators replicated food based on the patterns stored on the ship's computer, down to the last molecule. Now, if I could push a button and get a perfect replica of one of your dishes, I'd be almost as happy as if you had cooked it yourself, since it wouldn't involve driving all the way down I-10 to get it. :) But yes, PETA is full of a bunch of wild-eyed crazies. The type of farm you support treats animals ethically. PETA wants to elevate animals to the level of humans. I'm not even going to go there. Though I admit that I might be tempted to save my dog before someone else's child, but like PETA's arguments, I realize that's not a rational response, but an emotional one. In defense of Star Trek, the food replicators replicated food based on the patterns stored on the ship’s computer, down to the last molecule. Now, if I could push a button and get a perfect replica of one of your dishes, I’d be almost as happy as if you had cooked it yourself, since it wouldn’t involve driving all the way down I-10 to get it. :)

But yes, PETA is full of a bunch of wild-eyed crazies. The type of farm you support treats animals ethically. PETA wants to elevate animals to the level of humans. I’m not even going to go there. Though I admit that I might be tempted to save my dog before someone else’s child, but like PETA’s arguments, I realize that’s not a rational response, but an emotional one.

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By: dario http://www.offalgood.com/blog/peta-loves-meat/comment-page-1#comment-908 dario Fri, 25 Apr 2008 21:57:21 +0000 http://www.offalgood.com/blog/peta-loves-meat/#comment-908 Just posted on the same topic. I have the same opinion about Tofurky....why would you crave something that tastes like meat if you're veggie? Fine line, fine line...... Just posted on the same topic. I have the same opinion about Tofurky….why would you crave something that tastes like meat if you’re veggie? Fine line, fine line……

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